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Well that is a different situation :). If you have valid XP Pro licenses that you intend to retire (part of the agreement for an upgrade is that you no longer use those licenses) that should be just fine. You'll need to do a clean installation and in order to do that you'll need to download the full Windows 7 product from the Volume Licensing Website to make a bootable disk.
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Thank you - that is good to know. We've gone from 13 employees to 6, and in consolidating our offices will be decommissioning all the extra, old PCs in addition to replacing the 6 XP desktops in use.
My last bit to research before we upgrade will be to make sure I can get Windows 7 printer drivers for existing printers... since we can't replace them either. I'll be going to HP's website next - hopefully I'll have good news.
I'm going to make a suggestion. If you are running Small Business Server 2000 with Exchange 2000 - stick with Windows XP Professional.
Chris Shipley Nutmeg Consulting
Besides having XP Pro on them, the machines probably also had the LICENSES on them. I'm not completely sure, but my understanding is that the license goes with the machine that has the sticker on it, and is not transferable to another box. (However the machine that has the sticker on it can be upgraded and validly keep the license.) If your licenses go with the respective boxes, maybe you should transfer the guts of your new computers to the old boxes, and, for the sake of licenses, keep all the old boxes that you intended to discard.
I think that based on what you just said as well as what someone else contributed - we do need to make sure that the XP licenses you are talking about are or were on the computers that you are going to upgrade. Not computers that you intend to retire.
Just to confirm, the Win7 upgrade available on TS can be used to "upgrade" a WinXP license, but since Win7 needs a new install, we can/will have to download the full product using Charity Open License. Is that correct?
Not if you have Windows XP Professional installed already and the same bit version (32 or 64) that you are upgrading to, then you don't have to download the full install DVD. If you stick the DVD in the drive it will force you to do a clean install and you won't have to boot from it.
So why didn't I read this yesterday?? I just purchased computers that have Windows 7 home, and I bought the Windows 7 pro upgrade that I evidently cannot use, Can I install Win XP and then update. Do i have to uninstall Windows 7 home first? I have licenses for Win XP.
Jayne L. Wilson
So why didn't I read this yesterday?? I have just bought computers with Win 7 home and bought the Win 7 pro that I evidently cannot use. Can I install Win XP over the home, (uninstall Win 7 home first??)
Technically, for the techsoup upgrade, you have to forget about "owning" the Window 7 Home licenses. Here's how I understand it:
If you have an upgrade license for XP, you do not ever have to install XP, but it gives you the license to upgrade from an earlier version of Windows, like 2000 or Millenium, which also does not have to be installed on the computer. (The trick is that, for many years, most computers have the Windows license welded to the case, and you cannot legally use it on another box, even if you're abandoning the old box and setting up a new one that doesn't have a license affixed to the box.) But if you have detachable licenses, which were often, or typically, available on Windows 95 or 98, legally you can be upgrading XP Pro to W7 Pro. As long as you have the necessary string of licenses you can install the Windows 7 "upgrade" as a fresh installation.
We got a batch of W7 licenses in January. (I got the Enterprise license, because it seemed to have the advantage of being able to run in foreign languages and people of various nationalities work here.) I installed one instance of W7 and the Activation was not difficult or confusing. Now I've tried to set up a second computer and I cannot activate. "Error Code 0x8007232B: DNS name does not exist." I have not supplied Windows with any DNS name, and it did not ask me for one. I suppose this means a DNS on my network should be a repository for the license code, but Windows has never told me anything about that, either, and it does not appear on the "Windows Help and Support" system. At the moment I don't have a server; just using NAS for files and data, and no DNS in the intranet. So, even if Microsoft were to tell me what to do with a DNS, I could probably not do it. The Microsoft website wants me to buy a service contract to get advice on how to activate.
That is a very excellent question, jmarie. I don't believe you are getting a different "charity" license via TechSoup than you are getting if you go to say Consistent Computer Bargains. This was not the case in the past, but its possible Microsoft updated their license agreement but have not yet processed through channels for TechSoup. I have access to some Windows 7 Charity upgrade licenses via TechSoup. I will be happy to test this for you, as I have a client that has a Windows Vista Home Premium machine that I am itching to upgrade to Windows 7. I will let you know if the licensing center tells me anything about this or if the media I download (I will download specifically the upgrade media) works.
I double checked with our product implementation team and this was the information that I was given:
The correct links for the upgrade path are on this page: http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/windows7.aspx#tab=4
TechSoup products are in the standard Open License program and have a more limited upgrade than the products available through Charity Resellers or for academic institutions.
Please let me know if you have additional questions.
So far I’ve tried to upgrade using the downloaded media from the Volume Licensing center and had no luck. I get a message saying to use Anytime Upgrade. I then entered my TechSoup Windows 7 Key into the Anytime Upgrade but it wouldn’t accept it.
Microsoft’s About Licensing page states “You must remove the existing qualifying OS from the device in order to deploy the Volume Licensing upgrade license, unless the PC is covered by Microsoft Software Assurance.” So it seems like you can’t do an upgrade without doing a clean install of the upgraded media. I’m not exactly sure why they even offer the upgrade media but I bet you could use it to upgrade a Vista business product to a Windows 7 business product. Maybe it only works if you have SA on the PC.
Thank You for your reply shipley.c. Let me know if you find out anything different.
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